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如果小艾去不了世界杯

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101#
发表于 2006-5-13 22:58:00 | 只看该作者
经过机器和人工层层转译,不保证其精确度……
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102#
发表于 2006-5-13 22:59:00 | 只看该作者
19+4=23,两匹黑马要取代谁?
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103#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:03:00 | 只看该作者
hao xiang zhen de xi wang bu da ah []
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104#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:04:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用Jerusalem在2006-5-13 22:56:00的发言:
haiyouzuishangmiandeliangpiheima[]

(还有最上面的两匹黑马),是这个意思吗?

人都看不清,说的是哪两只啊?

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105#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:08:00 | 只看该作者
samuel and zanetti
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106#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:09:00 | 只看该作者
应该是指双萨,J.萨内蒂和萨穆艾尔,但那十九个人不是已经确定入选的了么?
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107#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:17:00 | 只看该作者

这还是奥莱的推测成分居多吧,不到最后一秒佩帅不会揭开谜底的

不过如果以这篇报道来看,艾马尔的机会是比其他人都多的,anyways假设罢了~

但是我是比较悲观的,剩下那么多人争四个位置

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108#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:24:00 | 只看该作者

按这个报道的意思,好像每个位置也就两个人竞争,双萨应该是直接去和那十九个当中的某两个PK,位置不同的:)

不去也是意料之中,万一去了就当拣到宝吧,还未必是宝呢:)

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109#
发表于 2006-5-13 23:32:00 | 只看该作者

(从xtratime那里挖来阿国内La Nacion.的报道)

The ones nominated

Pekerman showed yesterday to Julio Grondona his list for the World Cup; Aimar, Palacio and Demichelis are called up, and the president of the AFA prompts Ustari instead of Germán Lux in the arch

Passed tomorrow, the technical one José Pekerman will bring to light the final list that will go to the World Cup of Germany and the last hours in the ground of the AFA fit in the end of the balances. Time to discuss preferences, to compare merits and, even after finished the debate, to maintain the dissidences. Those discussions are the ones that were exposed on the rough draft that the DT delivered yesterday to the president of the AFA, Julio Grondona, in the meeting that they both maintained in Ezeiza to put name and surname to the plazas that are still to cover.

The president of the AFA already knows how Pekerman will divide the squad by lines: will be three goalkeepers, eight defenders, seven midfielders and five forward.
What is known?
That as the owners of the arch confirmed are Roberto Abbondanzieri and Leonardo Franco, and that to last moment doubts between Oscar Ustari and Germán Lux. That the shirts for the defenders will be eight and that all will be dressed by the ones that were in the meating carried out in the convent of Madrid.
That among the midfieldres finally will be Pablo Aimar and will enter Martin Demichelis. And that among the variant of attack will be Rodrigo Palacio, relegating the possibilities of Julio Cruz. This is the panorama that had until last night.

When Pekerman said in the Spanish capital that the surnames called up for the contact in the Convent were confirmed for the final list of 23, also affirmed, perhaps taking dimension of what thought for the future, that the fact that "some players are not in the concentration does not signify anything; this is circumstantial and does not imply that they cannot be called for the World Cup".
The particularity of the initial list was the absence of Aimar. Since the first moment, people linked with the technical body ventured their presence in Germany, perhaps by their condition to be one of the most identifying players with the work done by Pekerman in the youthful. And also because the DT and the holder of the AFA coincided in which is the name to have as possible alternative for Riquelme when be needed that variant one.

The presence or absence of Aimar modifies all the original plans for Pekerman. It is worth to recall that, although in the intimacy of the technical management always thought about him as an important link, also other possibilities have been considered. The different variants considered to add one more forward in Aimar's place and therefore Julio Cruz will have a big chance. Also videos of Federico Insúa and of Leandro Gracián were studied for the case the circumstances demanded it.

The president of the AFA met with Pekerman after greeting all the youthful staff that yesterday left to Toulón. During an hour they exchanged opinions, accompanied by Hugo Tocalli (in all this week they were a constant one the meetings behind closed doors between the DT and their collaborator), the right hand of the coach at the moment of making decisions.
The last question was to know who would be the last chosen.
The inclusion of Rodrigo Palacio its very likely because Crespo, Tevez and Saviola have a tendency to play on the centre of the pitch.
Therefore the Boca Jrs's player, that finalized the Torneo Clausura in a very good level, its called to complete the list of forward, that also integrates Messi. As for Julio Cruz, only would be considered if Aimar remained outside of the list.

Another question that arises of this conference is the confirmation that Martin Demichelis will be among the midfielders. In the last days, the possibilities of the player of Bayern Munich passed for disputing for a place with Aldo Duscher and, although with less chances, Lucas Bernardi. And it seems that Pekerman inclined for the the former River Plate player, who can be moved in some position of the defense (the left-footed central defenders on the list are Heinze and Milito), so much as to do it as central defensive midfielder.

If something was definite two weeks ago were the three goalkeepers, but by the order of Grondona and by recommendation of Tocalli the third place will be analyzed. How would it be decided?
Ustari was asked to diminished the demand in Independiente by an ostecondritis of the left knee, counts on an advantage, and the fact is that Grondona wants him in Germany.
A reading is imposed: the kingpin of the AFA wants him at the World Cup in order to gain experience for the future.

La Nacion.
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Well, this is a very good article.
The most important things:
1) No Zanetti and no Samuel. Scaloni, somehow manages to make the team. Shocking.
2) Aimar is called.
3) Demichelis will be on the list. Thats good.
4) Palacio and Saviola are the last two strikers. No Cruz and no Aguero.
5) Abbondanzieri and Franco, in that order, are the two main goal keepers.
6) Grondona ask Pekerman to take Ustari instead of Lux. I agree with Grondona.

先不谈实质性,yy也好

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110#
发表于 2006-5-14 00:04:00 | 只看该作者

呵呵只是奇怪人家密谈呢,记者怎么就知道得那么详细?两份报纸还大同小异……

不过在这里根本没提桑塔纳啊,竞争的变成了克鲁兹……我记得在某场热身赛后曾经说过“让艾马尔这么打还不如上克鲁兹呢,至少离球门还近点儿”……真是FT[]

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111#
发表于 2006-5-14 01:02:00 | 只看该作者

(不好意思,偶误会了)

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-5-14 12:00:34编辑过]
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112#
发表于 2006-5-14 01:13:00 | 只看该作者

mm不要生气~这话是我说的[][]

但这个话是有语境的,当时应该是在落后的情况下,教练把艾马尔派上去当前锋使。现在我仍然持这样的看法,即使技术再细腻配合再精妙也好,在最后不得不拼命的时候,高中锋和长传冲吊也许更有效……

让mm误会了,不好意思啊~

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113#
发表于 2006-5-14 06:59:00 | 只看该作者

另一版本:克鲁斯确定入选,但是说他的入选将导致阿古埃罗落选,倒是和艾马尔没有关系

The list of players that Iran al World of Germany and that the technician of the selected, José Pekerman, will bring to light Monday, has awoke singular expectation in the soccer world and was known in the last hours that they would be added to the already known payroll the names of the goalkeeper of River, Germán Lux, and the scorer of the Inter, Italy, Julio Cruz.

The coach will make public the list -subject to consultation with the president of the AFA, July Grondona- the staff that will represent al Argentine soccer in the World Cup and will try to revert the pale untidy image in the last world one of Korea-Japan where resulted eliminated in the first round.

At 17 o'clock, in the ground that the AFA possesses in Ezeiza for the training and concentration of the selection, José Pekerman will give a press conference and in the course of the same one will officialize the integration of the staff of 23 players that will travel to Germany.

Already a preliminary list exists, although Pekerman said that is not the final one, and that the own technical director gave it when called for some days of contact that were carried out in the old convent of The Bobadilla of the Mount, on the outskirts of Madrid.

To these sixteen names, they began to add the of the goalkeeper of River, Germán Lux -fight the position with the goalkeeper of Independent, Oscar Ustari- and that of the centrodelantero of the Inter, July Cross, former Banfield, River, and Bologna, among others clubs.

With the inclusion of Lux, obviously would remain al margin Ustari, the young revelation of the tournament Closure, and also if Cross is incorporated they would diminish the chances of Sergio "Kun" Aguero, of Independent, and one of them preferred of July Grondona.

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-5-14 07:46:02编辑过]
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114#
发表于 2006-5-14 07:37:00 | 只看该作者

记者居然问到小罗头上去了……无语 民族报新闻


Ronaldinho wants to Aimar

The Brazilian one Ronaldinho, the maximum figure of the world soccer, praised al Argentine Pablo Aimar and expressed its desire that the player of the Valencia view the undershirt albiceleste in Germany 2006.

"To I love to see it to play, is a player with very good technique", he said Ronaldinho to the agency DPA in Barcelona, after knowing that the Argentine coach, José Pekerman, he would be able to dispense with the midfield player in the next World one.

The star of the Barcelona showed its respect by Pekerman -" is a decision of the coach" -, but insisted that Argentina should not dispense with Aimar: "I love its style of play".

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115#
发表于 2006-5-14 09:58:00 | 只看该作者

突然想到,这个名单里面会有几个人是参加过世界杯的啊?5个不知道有没有,然后这5个里面还不知道有几个会有首发甚至出场机会……

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116#
发表于 2006-5-14 10:16:00 | 只看该作者
怎么双萨要成黑马了?这么惨?最起码也得去一个吧.
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117#
发表于 2006-5-14 10:41:00 | 只看该作者
友情提示:风暴狼多,专门喜欢在人情绪烦躁时用甜言蜜语博得好感,已达到其不可告人的目的。现在非常时期,希望mm们保持头脑清醒,不要被某些披着羊皮的狼的三言两语蒙骗,一定要认清其本质。
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118#
发表于 2006-5-14 11:11:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用fenice_c在2006-5-14 06:59:00的发言:

另一版本:克鲁斯确定入选,但是说他的入选将导致阿古埃罗落选,倒是和艾马尔没有关系

The list of players that Iran al World of Germany and that the technician of the selected, José Pekerman, will bring to light Monday, has awoke singular expectation in the soccer world and was known in the last hours that they would be added to the already known payroll the names of the goalkeeper of River, Germán Lux, and the scorer of the Inter, Italy, Julio Cruz.

The coach will make public the list -subject to consultation with the president of the AFA, July Grondona- the staff that will represent al Argentine soccer in the World Cup and will try to revert the pale untidy image in the last world one of Korea-Japan where resulted eliminated in the first round.

At 17 o'clock, in the ground that the AFA possesses in Ezeiza for the training and concentration of the selection, José Pekerman will give a press conference and in the course of the same one will officialize the integration of the staff of 23 players that will travel to Germany.

Already a preliminary list exists, although Pekerman said that is not the final one, and that the own technical director gave it when called for some days of contact that were carried out in the old convent of The Bobadilla of the Mount, on the outskirts of Madrid.

To these sixteen names, they began to add the of the goalkeeper of River, Germán Lux -fight the position with the goalkeeper of Independent, Oscar Ustari- and that of the centrodelantero of the Inter, July Cross, former Banfield, River, and Bologna, among others clubs.

With the inclusion of Lux, obviously would remain al margin Ustari, the young revelation of the tournament Closure, and also if Cross is incorporated they would diminish the chances of Sergio "Kun" Aguero, of Independent, and one of them preferred of July Grondona.


这个里面,没有提到艾马尔同学……他算是不必讨论了的,还是不予讨论的[]

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119#
发表于 2006-5-14 13:05:00 | 只看该作者

我想这个媒体大概是觉得他和克鲁斯入选的事情没有关系吧

这家媒体就是爆出里克尔梅因为抗议艾马尔落选和佩克尔曼闹僵的那一家,哈哈

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120#
发表于 2006-5-14 16:29:00 | 只看该作者
呵呵,其实CC前几天翻译的那篇OLE报的新闻也很无良啊,艾马尔落选16人名单,不首先讨论战术怎么安排,却先揣度里克尔梅会怎么想……连比较正经的媒体都8g至此了,也难怪其他的不跟着异想天开[]
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121#
发表于 2006-5-14 16:52:00 | 只看该作者

耻辱,简直就是耻辱。。。。。。

小艾、萨队、岩石这几个人何至于沦落到现在这样的境遇?包括贝隆,少数几个被世人公认的球星反而到了连替补位置都成疑的地步,佩克曼手上的牌好到了这样?再看看,原来也不过就是小狮王、科洛奇尼那些。。。。。。

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122#
发表于 2006-5-14 22:19:00 | 只看该作者

哈哈哈,我昨天就突然想通了,他爱用不用~

我现在唯一担心的就是艾会不会太难过……

有时候我真的希望他能够首先把国家队拒掉,真是的~~[][]

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123#
发表于 2006-5-14 22:28:00 | 只看该作者

有时候觉得这个东西就像两个人恋爱,既然双方不合适,而且对方又模模糊糊语焉不详,还不如分掉,勉强有什么意思,呵呵~

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124#
发表于 2006-5-14 23:24:00 | 只看该作者
呵呵,一切随他搞,自己找死,就怨不得别人没给他准备棺材。
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125#
发表于 2006-5-14 23:49:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用三月太阳在2006-5-14 23:24:00的发言:
呵呵,一切随他搞,自己找死,就怨不得别人没给他准备棺材。

呵呵,兄弟近来可好,来看望一下.

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