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【新闻集帖一】 2006-11 至 2007-03 新闻集

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151#
发表于 2007-1-5 11:18:00 | 只看该作者

2007-01-05

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Liverpool make move for Mascherano

Mersey club hope to break Fifa rules impasse; Curbishley aims to fill gap with £5m Boa Morte

Dominic Fifield and Jon Brodkin
Friday January 5, 2007
The Guardian


Liverpool have agreed to sign Javier Mascherano from West Ham United until the end of the season with a view to a longer-term deal, though there still appears to be a major obstacle to overcome if the move is to be completed. Fifa said last night it would refuse to sanction the transfer.

Mascherano arrived at Upton Park from Corinthians on transfer deadline day in August having already represented the Brazilian club in competitive action since the World Cup finals. Article Five, Paragraph Three of Fifa's regulations stipulates that, while players can be registered for a maximum of three clubs from July 1 until June 30 the following year, they are eligible to play for only two in that time.

The West Ham manager, Alan Curbishley, who has agreed a fee of £5m with Fulham for Luis Boa Morte, is already planning for life without Mascherano despite Fifa indicating last night that the rules would technically prevent the Argentina midfielder from completing a loan move to Anfield. Indeed, it is understood to have outlined the situation to the West Ham owner, Eggert Magnusson, when asked at the end of November.

"Our understanding, as of today, is the rule is binding," said a Fifa spokesman. "That means that, if a player has already played and registered and been eligible for two clubs from the period of July 1 to June 30, he is not any longer eligible for another club until the next period begins [on July 1]. There is no provision that allows for any kind of waiving of this rule."

Yet Mascherano's representatives, Media Sports Investments, whose founder Kia Joorabchian brokered his move alongside that of Carlos Tevez from Brazil to east London with the company retaining the players' image rights, are convinced a deal can still be struck even if they must challenge Fifa to force completion. The Liverpool manager, Rafael Benítez, is understood to share that confidence, with the player having agreed personal terms and the transfer discussed at length at a board meeting yesterday. The deal is expected to be a loan with an option to purchase at the end of the season.

Benítez will also add the Blackburn Rovers defender Lucas Neill to his ranks this month, with Stephen Warnock possibly moving in the other direction. While both Neill and Mascherano have played in the Uefa Cup this season, Liverpool will most likely submit the Australian as their one additional eligible player for their Champions League campaign under new Uefa rules, leaving the Argentinian as cover for Steven Gerrard and Xabi Alonso in domestic competition. The 22-year-old has made only seven appearances for West Ham and none since Curbishley took over.

The Hammers' new manager is on the verge of his first signing after agreeing to pay Fulham £5m for Boa Morte. The 29-year-old Portugal international had a medical yesterday and should complete the transfer today. It is possible Matthew Etherington will move in the opposite direction. West Ham are pursuing a number of other targets. Talks are ongoing with Chelsea about Shaun Wright-Phillips and the club have made an offer for the Birmingham City defender Matthew Upson. Curbishley believes Upson could add much needed steel to a team that has conceded nine goals in the past three games. The 27-year-old, who has seven England caps, played a significant part in keeping Birmingham in the Premiership after joining from Arsenal in January 2003.

Upson has declined to extend a contract at St Andrew's which has a season and a half to run and Birmingham want at least £5m for him. He is understood to favour a move to London, from where Tottenham have also kept a close eye on him. Curbishley is expected to allow departures from Upton Park and Reading are interested in the striker Bobby Zamora, who would cost about £2.5m.

While agreeing to sell Boa Morte, Fulham completed a deal to take the striker Vincenzo Montella from Roma on a six-month loan and hope to bring in Simon Davies from Everton. Fulham also accepted an offer of about £3m from Watford for Collins John but the striker is not keen to move to the Premiership's bottom club and will see if rival suitors emerge.

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152#
发表于 2007-1-5 11:26:00 | 只看该作者
天啊  这是什么世道啊
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153#
发表于 2007-1-20 13:44:00 | 只看该作者
QUOTE:
以下是引用joey_zhou在2007-1-19 22:42:00的发言:
怎麼說呢﹐如果只是個別案例FIFA破破例當然沒什麼﹐問題是這樣的話以後大家都可以視這個規定如無物了﹐這肯定是FIFA不願意見到的。我們拭目以待好了﹗[]

 

[]他家的规矩向来就这样……布拉特是个善变的男人……
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154#
发表于 2007-1-20 14:52:00 | 只看该作者

19号的翻译跟网易翻的有点不同,我不理了,错也不会错到哪去,反正就是......。

官方语言就官方语言吧!!!

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-21 1:09:03编辑过]
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155#
发表于 2007-1-20 15:08:00 | 只看该作者
翻了后才发现网易早有了,看标题还真没想到是同一篇来的。
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156#
发表于 2007-1-21 00:31:00 | 只看该作者

漫步你可能误会了。英文的新闻我看到了,科比的意思是如果小马不能转会的话,他会考虑使用小马的。

我认为他的讲话应该是善意的,他讲得很清楚了,如果有机会他支持小马走的。万一走不了,难道你不希望他使用小马么?

Alan Curbishley has told Javier Mascherano that he may still have a future at Upton Park. Liverpool have been trying to sign the player during this transfer window(as we reported earlier this month) and are currently looking for a loan deal. However FIFA rules are unlikely to allow such a scenario and Curbs has offered an olive branch, of sorts, to the Argentine International.

'I have looked at my team selections and he hasn't featured in them. I felt that if there was an opportunity for him in this window we would let him go,' the West Ham manager told reporters 'If it doesn't happen he is a West Ham player, I have not dismissed him at all.'

Curbishley also made reference to the fact that he inherited this situation. Personally I'd like him to stop harking on about the hardships of taking over the reigns at the Boelyn and get on with leading the current squad out of trouble; something I am sure he is capable of.

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157#
发表于 2007-1-21 01:06:00 | 只看该作者

其实说不上喜不喜欢,只是他说的话是官方语言更多于其他,很绅士但我实在喜欢不上,其实这个时候我只觉得他不说好过说,何必这么假呢?会用就早表态啦,有必要申请都送出去了,再说这些吗?

回头我把语气改了吧,只是实在不喜欢这种虚情假意!

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158#
发表于 2007-1-21 08:54:00 | 只看该作者
West Ham are expected to finalise the loan signing of Sevilla striker Kepa Blanco, 22,tomorrow. A club official said Manchester City had shown interest but West Ham’s offer was the best. He said: "Kepa is excited about playing alongside Carlos Tevez."
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159#
发表于 2007-1-21 10:05:00 | 只看该作者

在塞维利亚表现怎么样的一个前锋啊?

不过身体条件很好啊186cm,西班牙的应该技术也是比较细腻的,那跟我们野兽搭档也不错啊。

但感觉西汉姆联现在的前锋线上人就已经不少了,它又没有什么多线做战的需要,但无论如何如果能进一个西班牙前锋还能跟野兽搭档,打法上还是比较容易擦出吧。

西汉姆联现在的前锋线感觉年轻一辈来说薩莫拉是目前跟野兽最搭调的(谢大叔这个赛季后看来也要退了,要不然在体能OK的情况下,他跟野兽的意识配合是最好的。)。

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160#
发表于 2007-1-21 10:14:00 | 只看该作者

谢林汉姆遭遇情变,新主教练也不待见,早就淡出了。

西汉姆还在不停的买人,不知道效果如何。

关于主论坛豆丁那个帖子,我觉得也谈不上不信任吧,西汉姆这么小的庙,康复机制肯定很一般了。漫步姐以为如何?

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161#
发表于 2007-1-21 10:23:00 | 只看该作者

你说的也是,只是野兽的个性也锐强,不过这样的个性才让我们喜欢吧,而且最起码懂得如何保护自己啊,就从这点我也支持他这样做啦。

俱乐部这边怎么想就不得而知了,想想还是懒得理了,呵呵。

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162#
发表于 2007-1-21 10:32:00 | 只看该作者
差点忘了说,昨天体育新闻里,国际足联拒绝罗马里奥(我的天,罗马里奥头发都花白了)一年三次转会的申请。[]
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163#
发表于 2007-1-21 10:41:00 | 只看该作者

不是吧!!!

不过俩人还有一个极大区别,一个年轻,一个都可以退役了,所以转会成功与否对他们职业生涯的影响是不同的,这点还可以有不同的处理方式。

我们继续祈祷去。

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164#
发表于 2007-1-21 11:02:00 | 只看该作者
别害怕。我说的是实情。不过他们俩的情况确实不一样。希望FIFA能够网开一面。
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165#
发表于 2007-1-21 14:24:00 | 只看该作者

利物浦帮小马递转会申请时用的理由就是他在西汉姆联一直没有上场机会,这会严重影响他的职业生涯,所以申请特殊转会批准的。

那之前克比什顿关于他俩的谈话里也主要说野兽(其实也很少啦。),对小马可以说是不闻不问的。但在这种时候,他明知道小马的转会申请通过与否极可能会用上面说的那个理由。他以前不说话,现在也可以保持沉默啊,干么跑出来说什么如果小马没转会成功,他还是会给小马争取上场的机会这类话呢?!(我宁愿他对小马的事一直都像以前一样持回避态度好了!)这么敏感的时间里这样做,真是不知道该感谢他还是“多得他”啦,嘿嘿。

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166#
发表于 2007-1-21 14:25:00 | 只看该作者

希望小马吉人自有天象啊!

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167#
发表于 2007-1-22 08:04:00 | 只看该作者

我没想这么复杂。我只是想一旦转会不能如愿(当然我们都希望能如愿),科比愿意继续使用小马。

其实现在西汉墓防守问题很大。连续两场领先都没守住。小马即使留下也应该有前途的。

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168#
发表于 2007-1-24 00:06:00 | 只看该作者

絕對同意樓上

利物浦有固定的防中西索科,他二月尾便復出

而且利物浦除了絕對主力如杰拉德,其他的必定輪流替補的

對小馬不會有好發展

鎚子防守力不穩,所以他們買了兩個中堅

小馬實力已在世杯證明,只要適應下來便有狀態

絕對正選不是不可能的

而且強隊有其他人為你分擔 

中游的要個人看管防線的第一重,有極大的發展空間

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169#
发表于 2007-1-27 12:50:00 | 只看该作者
Inter Milan eyeing West Ham striker Tevez
tribalfooball.com - January 22, 2007

Inter Milan president Massimo Moratti wants to bring West Ham striker Carlos Tevez to Italy in the summer.

Moratti has been weighing up the pros and cons of signing one striker between the choices of Tevez and Real Madrid firebrand Antonio Cassano, says Controcampo.

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170#
发表于 2007-1-28 15:03:00 | 只看该作者

拉法采访节选(from红军官网 2007-1-27)

Liverpool, meanwhile, are still waiting to hear whether their appeal to FIFA to allow West Ham's Javier Mascherano to sign for the Reds will be successful.
  
"He is a player we want but we are waiting for the answer," added Benitez.
  
"It's clear a professional must play - he cannot stay without playing any games. He can bring more balance to our team. I have confidence but we have to wait."

拉法很器重小孩,要不然不能一再发表声明,等好消息叭~吉人天相!

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发表于 2007-1-30 08:44:00 | 只看该作者

2007-01-29

贝尼特斯:“无论什么情况出现,我都希望他能加入我们”

贝尼特斯仍寄希望于FIFA能在周三冬季转会窗口关闭前通过小马的转会申请。

看来老头子真的是很喜欢小马啊,离冬季转会窗口最后期限越近老头子也心急啊,三天两次跑出来为小马的事喊话加油了。

“我们在继续等待FIFA的回复,但即使在最后期限还没得到回复,我相信他最终还是会加入利物浦的!而且我渴望他能加入,他拥有丰富的经验。”

“我们都知道FIFA的规定(球员一年只能为两个俱乐部踢球的规定),但事实上他在西汉姆联已经无法得到任何的上场机会,这影响是不容忽视的(FIFA有一条法律条文是:如果球员无法获得上场机会的情况已经严重影响到球员的职业生涯,那么在转会上可以申请破例。)。,我们更应遵循法律条文。”

“他现在根本没有球踢。要知道没有人有权这样做。”

贝尼特斯老早就对小马唾涎三尺了(新JQ??),小马是他球队完善计划中的一部份。

“在河床时偶就注意到他了(老头子的相思回忆录,哇咔咔。[])。要知道18岁时他就已经进入国家队了(观察入微啊,好老头。),他的能力勿容质疑。(真是个痴情又长情的好老头,偶like it。)”。

“大家都看到了,在世界杯上他表现出色。他是一位拥有天赋与才干的优秀职业球员。”

“在利物浦中我们也拥有很多出色的中场球员,但只有阿隆索是防守中场(PS:应该是这个吧,我猜的,英超的其他队偶实在不熟。),小马的到了可以很好的缓解中场的防守压力。

“即使我们只能以租借一年半的方式让他到来,至少对于我们来说也是个很好的选择。而且以他的能力他一定能在这里成功。”

“在这点上我们是很确定(对小马的追求上,呵呵呵。),现在我们需要做的就是等回复。希望在明后两天我们想要的回复能来吧。如果回复不能及时到,我们仍然相信我们能够签到他。”

“现在俱乐部正尽最大的努力去争取,FIFA应该在1月31日前做点事。当然即使FIFA什么也不做,我还是觉得我们可以达到我们想要的。(这句似有话中话,有点看不明白。)”

“我们跟西汉姆联谈过了,在得到西汉姆联俱乐部的允下,我们也跟小马本人谈过了。他说,他已经不可能再为西汉姆联踢球了。”

“”

继续翻译中。

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Rafa confident over Mascherano

By Peter ORourke -  Created on 29 Jan 2007

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is confident Javier Mascherano will be allowed to join the club.
 

The Reds are looking to sign Mascherano on loan from West Ham despite the fact the Argentine has already played for two clubs in the past 12 months.

Fifa rules permit any player turning out for more than two clubs over a one-year period between 1st July and 30th June the following year, but Liverpool have asked Fifa for special dispensation to allow the move to happen.

Liverpool have agreed a deal with West Ham and have held talks with the player about a move to West Ham.

Benitez remains hopeful that Fifa will agree to let the defensive midfielder join Liverpool even after the transfer window closes on Wednesday.

"We are waiting for Fifa to make a decision, but even if that does not come before the deadline, I believe he will still be able to join us," said Benitez.

"I hope he will join us, he has great experience.

"We know the rule says he cannot play for three clubs, but he is unable to play at West Ham and we must take into consideration the law, and the law is more important than the rules.

"He is unable to work at the moment, nobody can say you cannot work."

Benitez has held a long-term interest in Mascherano and he believes he would be a good addition to his squad.

"We were aware of the player when he was at River Plate, he was in the national team at 18," said Benitez."There is no doubt about the quality of the player.

"He played well in the World Cup and he is a great professional with talent and quality.

"We have good midfielders in Alonso, Gerrard, Sissoko and Zenden, but the only holding midfielder is Alonso and the idea is to bring Mascherano here to put pressure on in that role.

"If we sign him it will be on loan for one and a half years, at least. He is a good option and has the character and ability to do well in the Premiership.

"We have an agreement, but we must wait for the Fifa decision. We hope that will come in the next two days, but if it does not we still believe we will be able to sign him.

"We are doing our best as a club to sort this out. Fifa need to do something before January 31. But if they do not, I still feel we can achieve what we want.

"We talked to West Ham and had permission to talk to Mascherano, that says that he is not likely to play for them again.

"They used Tevez because they needed strikers, but they had other midfield players with different styles, that made it difficult."

Liverpool face Mascherano's West Ham on Tuesday night and Benitez is expecting a tough test

"West Ham players should be more motivated with a new manager," added Benitez.

"When a team changes a manager, they normally win the first game because everyone wants to impress, then the situation can return to what it was like before.

"We need to win the game before talking about the future and how far we are behind Chelsea.

"We know how important this game is and if we can beat Everton as well it will be six points, and that could make a big difference.

"This stage of the season is very important for us. We have difficult games with Manchester United and Arsenal still to come here, but if we can win some games in a row now it will make us closer to the top as the season comes to an end."

PS:贝尼特斯的语气,只有这一天时间了。


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发表于 2007-1-30 10:34:00 | 只看该作者

It is believed that Tevez and Mascherano have differing contracts, Tevez being able to play as often as West Ham want but Mascherano's has a stipulation that after a certain number of games it would trigger extra payments.

据称,特维斯和马斯切拉诺有不同的合同。特维斯可以按西汉姆的要求经常踢比赛;但小马的比赛场次增加会引发额外的费用。

简言之,特维斯的薪水和场次不挂钩;小马则有联系。

不过,我不懂的是,这个number of games怎么解释?小马没怎么踢比赛啊。。。

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发表于 2007-1-30 10:46:00 | 只看该作者
反正就是一团乱账。
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发表于 2007-1-30 10:53:00 | 只看该作者

国际足联真让人很不爽,行不行说句话,摆个架子,非要拖到最后一刻

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发表于 2007-1-30 11:15:00 | 只看该作者

在这件事上贝尼特斯跟利物浦(我想主要还是贝尼特斯的态度起了决定性的影响吧。)对小马的态度真是没得说了,无论是否可以成行,都很感谢这老头子了。

如果真的能成行,以阿根廷人的性格,如非身不由已(例如俱乐部原因、或MSI这“黑手”的原因),我觉得小马以后绝对会为贝尼特斯、为利物浦赴汤蹈火在所不辞,为他们尽忠到退役了。

英超。

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